sábado, 31 de julho de 2010

Diversos e diversos textos de Osho - Several and several Osho texts in ENGLISH




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Date: 2010/7/31

Subject: [RiverIIOsho] Digest Number 869
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1.


Silence is enough



Posted by: "Subhuti" subhuti@comcast.net   subhutiii



Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:13 am (PDT)





----- Original Message -----
From: Antar Kabeer
To: subhuti@comcast.net

Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:10 AM
Subject: orkut - Antar Kabeer left you a new scrap!

Antar:

Hearing will make you a great knowledgeable man, and listening will make you innocent, silent -- a peace that passeth understanding.


Modern mind has lost all capacity to wonder. It has lost all capacity to look into the mysterious, into the miraculous, because of knowledge, because it thinks it knows.

Language is for non-lovers, those who are not in love. For lovers silence is enough. Without saying anything, they go on speaking.


OSHO
Love to be your prayer

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2.


Nobody is an island



Posted by: "Subhuti" subhuti@comcast.net   subhutiii



Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:24 am (PDT)





----- Original Message -----
From: anand tk
To: Spiritual

anand:

ENLIGHTENMENT

Drop all ambition to be the first to become enlightened. There is no individual enlightenment. All individuals are joined together with the whole.


Buddha reached the gate of heaven. Of course, the people there were waiting. They opened the door, they welcomed him, but he turned his back towards the door looked at the world - millions of souls on the same path, struggling, in misery, in anguish, striving to reach this gate of heaven and bliss.


The doorkeeper said, "Come in, please. We have been waiting for you."

And Buddha said, "How can I come when others have not reached? It doesn't seem to be the right time. How can I enter when the whole has not yet entered? I will have to wait. It is just as if my hand has reached into the door and my feet have not reached yet. I will have to wait. Just the hand cannot enter alone."


It is said in this beautiful story that Buddha is still waiting. He has to wait - nobody is an island, we make a continent, we are together.

--- A Buddhist Tale

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3.


LIVE THE MOMENT



Posted by: "Subhuti" subhuti@comcast.net   subhutiii



Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:47 am (PDT)




ONE HAS TO LEARN TO LIKE THAT WHICH IS HAPPENING. That is what I call maturity. One has to like that which is already there. Immaturity is always living in 'oughts', 'shoulds', and never living in the 'is' -- and 'is' is the case, 'should' is just a dream.


One 'should' live intensely. Why? WHATSOEVER IS THE CASE IS GOOD. Love it and like it and relax into it. When sometimes intensity comes, love it; when it goes, say goodbye. THINGS CHANGE... LIFE IS A FLUX. Nothing remains the same -- so sometimes great spaces and sometimes nowhere to move. But both are good. Both are gifts from God. ONE SHOULD BE SO GRATEFUL THAT WHATSOEVER HAPPENS, ONE IS GRATEFUL, THANKFUL.


I don't see any problem. JUST ENJOY IT. This is what is happening right now. Tomorrow it may change -- then enjoy that. The day after tomorrow something else may happen -- enjoy that. Don't compare the past with futile future fantasies. LIVE THE MOMENT. Sometimes it is hot, sometimes very cold -- but both are needed otherwise life will disappear. It lives in polarities.


So let this be your meditation: WHATSOEVER HAPPENS, LIKE IT. Give it a try, mm?

OSHO
A Rose is a Rose is a Rose
Ch #5, a darshan diary
pm in Chuang Tzu Auditorium





4.


Humbly accept your imperfection



Posted by: "Subhuti" subhuti@comcast.net   subhutiii



Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:02 am (PDT)




People have judged you,
and you have accepted their idea
without any scrutiny.

You are suffering from all kinds of people's judgments,

and you are throwing those judgments on other people.
And this game has grown all out of proportion;
the whole of humanity is suffering from it.

If you want to get out of it, the first thing is:
Don't judge yourself.

Accept humbly your imperfection, your failures,
your mistakes, your frailties.
There is no need to pretend otherwise.

Just be yourself, that, 'This is how I am -- full of fear:
that I cannot go in the dark night,

that I cannot go in the thick forest.'
What is wrong in it? -- just human.

OSHO
The Transmission of the Lamp
Ch #1: The animals must all be laughing
pm in Punta Del Este, Uruguay.





5.


ACCEPTANCE CREATES THE MILIEU IN WHICH LOVE GROWS



Posted by: "Subhuti" subhuti@comcast.net   subhutiii



Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:12 am (PDT)




LOVE STARTS WITH SELF-LOVE. Don't be selfish but be self-full -- and they are two different things. Don't be a Narcissus, don't be obsessed with yourself. But a natural self-love is a must, a basic phenomenon. Only then out of it, you can you love somebody else.


ACCEPT YOURSELF, LOVE YOURSELF; you are God's creation. God's signature is on you; and you are special, unique. Nobody else has ever been like you, and nobody else will ever be like you. You are simply unique, incomparable. Accept this, love this, celebrate this.


And in that very celebration you will start seeing the uniqueness of the others, the incomparable beauty of the others. Love is possible only when there is a deep acceptance of oneself, the other, the world. ACCEPTANCE CREATES THE MILIEU IN WHICH LOVE GROWS, the soil in which love blooms.


OSHO
The Revolution
Ch #4: Forth from your caves
am in Buddha Hall





6.


SUBHUTI WAS SENT TO SPREAD BUDDHA'S MESSAGE



Posted by: "Subhuti" subhuti@comcast.net   subhutiii



Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:33 am (PDT)




Osho,
Would you not like to say something to me?

//Osho://
FAREED, I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY. And all that I say is only to say this, that I have nothing to say. And all that I say to you is just to prepare you for a moment of eternal silence when you also stop saying and you start being.


ONCE Buddha asked his disciple, Subhuti, 'Subhuti, what do you think? Does the Buddha expound the dharma?' Subhuti said, 'WORLD-HONORED ONE, THE BUDDHA DOES NOT EXPOUND ANYTHING.'

And for forty-two years, Buddha was expounding the dharma. And Subhuti says, 'World-Honored One, the Tathagata does not expound anything.' AND BUDDHA GAVE HIS CONFIRMATION TO SUBHUTI'S UNDERSTANDING -- because another disciple, Ananda, was sitting there, and Ananda said, 'What do you mean? He has been expounding the dharma for forty-two years, continuously -- morning, afternoon, evening, year in, year out. What else he is doing?'


But Buddha confirmed Subhuti's understanding, not Ananda's understanding. Subhuti knows. Ananda has only heard the words. And Buddha says, 'Ananda, you will have to wait to know. Subhuti is right.'


AND IT HAPPENED when Buddha died, all the monks, all the disciples, gathered together to collect all the sayings of Buddha. Ananda was not allowed to enter in the hall; Subhuti was the head. Now, this seems strange -- but these people called Buddhas are strange people.


Ananda had lived for forty two years continuously with Buddha like a shadow. He had moved with him wherever he had gone. He had slept in his room for forty-two years. He was the only one who was closest. He had heard all that he had said, and his memory was tremendously perfect.


NOW SUBHUTI IS THE HEAD OF THE CONGREGATION WHICH IS GOING TO COLLECT THE SAYINGS OF BUDDHA -- and the man who had heard him always... Subhuti was not always with him, rarely -- because Subhuti was sent to spread Buddha's message to other parts of the country. So he was rarely there. Only few times he had heard Buddha. He becomes the head who is going to collect Buddha's sayings. And Ananda -- who seems to be the right person to be the head -- is not even allowed into the hall.


And Subhuti says to Ananda, 'You sit at the door as a guard -- as you used to sit with Buddha too. You sit at the door outside. Unless you become enlightened we are not going to allow you inside.'

And Subhuti, who says Buddha has not expounded anything, becomes the head of the exposition of the dharma scriptures -- ALL THAT HAS BEEN COLLECTED THEY HAVE BEEN COLLECTED UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF SUBHUTI. But this basic understanding is there, this tacit understanding is there, that all this is superficial -- because THE ULTIMATE CANNOT BE SAID. But people are foolish, so even a Buddha has to say the ultimate for these foolish people.


Ananda remained outside the hall. Five hundred monks are inside -- they are all juniors to Ananda, Ananda is the senior-most. Not only is he the senior-most disciple, he is also a cousin-brother to Buddha -- not only a cousin-brother, he is the elder cousin-brother to Buddha. And he is standing there outside, crying.


For twenty-four hours, it is said, he was standing there crying. And after twenty-four hours, something exploded in him, and he understood. He understood why Buddha had confirmed that 'Subhuti is right; Ananda, you are not right. YOU HAVE ONLY HEARD MY WORDS -- AND THE WORDS ARE NOTHING. The reality is silent.'


He danced. And the moment it happened outside the hall.... Subhuti was inside, and they were collecting the sayings. Suddenly he stopped and he said, 'Call Ananda in. Now he is worthy to be asked to be in.'


The monks went out, they found Ananda dancing. They had never seen this man so blissful, so luminous. And Ananda said, 'Buddha was right, I had been only hearing the words. Now I have heard the soundless sound.'


Subhuti said, 'Now you can also relate whatsoever you know, whatsoever you have heard from Buddha. Now your memory can be trusted, because knowing has arisen. Up to now your memory was just mechanical -- it had no light inside it.'


So say I to you, Fareed: I have nothing to say. And if you hear me rightly, that is the message.

OSHO
Zen: The Path of Paradox
Vol 2, Ch #6: The door to the wild
am in Buddha Hall





7.


Consciousness is the only reality..... Ramana Maharishi



Posted by: "Subhuti" subhuti@comcast.net   subhutiii



Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:38 am (PDT)





----- Original Message -----
From: anand tk
To: subhuti@comcast.net


anand:

Existence or consciousness is the only reality. Consciousness plus waking, we call waking. Consciousness plus sleep, we call sleep. Consciousness plus dream, we call dream. Consciousness is the screen on which all the pictures come and go. The screen is real, the pictures are mere shadows on it.


~~~~~~~

He who thinks he is the doer is also the sufferer.

~~~~~~~

You have to ask yourself the question 'Who am I ?' This investigation will lead in the end to the discovery of something within you which is behind the mind. Solve that great problem and you will solve all other problems.


~~~~~~~

Creation is neither good nor bad; it is as it is. It is the human mind which puts all sorts of constructions on it, seeing things from its own angle and interpreting them to suit its own interests.


Ramana Maharishi

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8a.


THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN LIFE IS MEDITATION



Posted by: "Subhuti" subhuti@comcast.net   subhutiii



Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:45 am (PDT)




MEDITATION SIMPLY MEANS TO BE WITH YOURSELF in your absolute aloneness, so that you can have a taste of your own being. To be with yourself is meditation.


In my philosophy of life, ONLY TWO THINGS ARE VALUABLE: one is MEDITATION, the other is LOVE. And both are complementary. Meditation means the joy of being alone, and love means the joy of being together with somebody. These are the two wings of a true education.


MEDITATION MEANS INDEPENDENCE, FREEDOM -- freedom from all, even from the beloved; because even the presence of the beloved encroaches on your space. It is good for the time being, it is good to overlap your space with somebody, it is good to meet and merge, but ultimately, AND fundamentally, you are alone. And you have to learn how to be alone, and not only how to be alone, but joyously alone, ecstatically alone.


MEDITATION MEANS SITTING SILENTLY, DOING NOTHING... just being! The world is too much full of doing. The society teaches you to do this, to do that -- why? Because if you do this, you will have that; if you don't do this, you will not have that. Doing is a way of having more; and we are conditioned to have more and more and more -- as if by having more, we will really be satisfied, contented; as if by having more, we will really become rich.


The truth is just the opposite: THE MORE YOU HAVE, THE MORE YOU FEEL YOUR INNER POVERTY -- in contrast. The richer you become in the outside world, the emptier you feel inside; and no outer richness can fill the inner gap. Nothing from the outside can be taken in. You can have as much wealth as possible, but it will go on piling up outside you; and the bigger the heap, the more you will see your inner emptiness, nothingness, hollowness -- the more miserable you will become.


Hence, THE RICHER A SOCIETY GETS, THE MORE AND MORE IT BECOMES INTERESTED IN RELIGION. Poor societies cannot be religious; it is almost impossible. I am not saying a poor person cannot be religious -- a poor person CAN be -- but a poor society cannot be. A poor person may be an exception: Kabir was a poor man -- and attained to the highest peak possible, became a Buddha. But the poor society as such cannot be religious.


The poor society remains interested in having more and more; AND IF YOU WANT TO HAVE MORE, YOU WILL HAVE TO DO MORE. You will have to put your whole energy into doing -- and meditation is just the opposite of doing. Meditation is a state of non-doing, it is a state of utter passiveness. It is a state of being: one simply IS... and ENJOYING that simple isness. And then something starts happening inside -- without any doing on your part.


Sitting silently,
Doing nothing,
The spring comes,
And the grass grows by itself...

Something starts growing in you.

One thing, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN LIFE IS MEDITATION. No education can be called real education. Even the word 'education' simply means to draw out that which is within you. This commune is educational, because our effort is to draw out whatsoever is in you. And your so-called universities are NOT educational; they don't fulfill the requirement of being educational. They stuff people from the outside; they don't draw out, they force in. Even literally they are not educational.


The whole effort in the so-called educational institutions is TO STUFF PEOPLE WITH MORE AND MORE KNOWLEDGE, because knowledge will help them to do more and do more efficiently; and if they can do things more efficiently, they will have more things. This is what you call education? This is not real education.


Real education will teach a person the most fundamental truth that: "I am alone. I come alone, I will go alone. And between coming and going, I can deceive myself that I am not alone, but that is only a deception. Intrinsically I remain alone. Aloneness is my intrinsic nature, so I have to fall in tune with it, I have to dive deep into it. I have to know exactly what it is -- what is this aloneness?"....


AND IT IS TREMENDOUSLY BEAUTIFUL, it is incredibly beautiful, unbelievably beautiful. When you enter into your aloneness, you start becoming aware of God, you start becoming aware of your treasures hidden within you. You start becoming aware of the kingdom of God that is within you.


Kabir says:
You don't grasp the fact that what is most
Alive of all is inside your own house...

BUT NOBODY TEACHES YOU. The whole teaching is: "Go out! Search for money, for power, for prestige" -- and they are not found within. Peace is found within, silence is found within, stillness is found within, godliness is found within. But those are not the goals that you have been taught to fulfill; those are not your targets.


It is said of a great Sufi mystic, Bayazid:
One day, some people came to Sheikh Bayazid's door and knocked. He opened his upstairs window and looked out saying, "What do you want?"
"Oh," they said, "we are looking for Bayazid."

He said, "Well, I have been looking for Bayazid for ten years now, and I have not found him yet!" and closed the window.

THIS IS WHAT MEDITATION IS ALL ABOUT: trying to find oneself.

And the other most important thing is love. LOVE MEANS TRYING TO FIND ONESELF REFLECTED IN THE OTHER. Love is a mirror. Meditation is a search without a mirror; love is nothing but seeing yourself in the eyes of the other you love, reflected in his being, and a way of enjoying the togetherness.


We ARE alone, but we are not alone in the sense that we exist alone. We are alone, but there are other people around us -- who are ALSO alone! WE EXIST WITH MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE ALONE. Bridges have to be made. Love is the meeting of two alonenesses. One aloneness is immensely beautiful -- what to say about when two alonenesses meet and merge? A great flowering happens, life becomes more mysterious, more joyous.


AND THEN ONE LEARNS THE RHYTHM: sometimes be alone, enjoy yourself; sometimes be together, enjoy love, friendship. When tired of togetherness, escape into your innermost being; when tired of your aloneness, escape into the being of the other.


IT IS LIKE WALKING ON A TIGHTROPE: sometimes you lean towards the left, and then you know that if you lean any more you will fall, so you start leaning towards the right. Then again a point comes when you know that if you lean more towards the right you will fall, and you start leaning towards the left. That balance, the balance of the tightrope-walker, is the balance that gives richness to man. WALK BETWEEN LOVE AND MEDITATION, BALANCING EACH OTHER. Become rich with meditation and love.


BUT, REMEMBER, THE FIRST THING IS MEDITATION. If you don't know who you are, you will not be able to love either. If you don't know inner blissfulness you will not be able to share it with anybody else either.


BUT PEOPLE DON'T GO IN; they are running hither and thither -- they are running everywhere except inwards. And all this running is nothing but dreaming, desiring. Just watch your mind! What your mind goes on doing? In the night it dreams, in the day it dreams... it goes on running and running. It moves in circles, but those circles are all dreams.


THE TRUTH IS YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS, NOT YOUR MIND. Your mind is created by the society: your consciousness comes from God. Move to the consciousness; change the gestalt. Your emphasis has to be changed -- that's what it means to be religious. That's what conversion is: changing your attention from the mind to consciousness.


MIND IS A SOCIAL BY-PRODUCT -- the Hindu mind, the Christian mind, the communist mind, the Catholic mind -- these are social by-products. The society has put ideas in your head: that is your mind. Shift your consciousness, your attention, to that which is God-created; otherwise you will live in dreams; and dreams cannot fulfill. Dreams are dreams -- they are not really there.


Two friends meet on the street after several years of not seeing each other. The usual salutation of "How are you?" provokes the answer from Saul that he feels awful -- is suffering terribly from a strong dream. It seems that every night, the moment he goes to sleep, he dreams he is getting on the train from Tel Aviv to Haifa. The train reaches Haifa, but he does not get off. He returns to Tel Aviv, and upon arriving, he wakes up to find the new day and he is hot and tired from the trip.

Morris exclaims that he too is in a similar shape for basically the same reason. It seems that every night he dreams that the door on the left side of his bedroom opens and in walks Sophia Loren. She strips stark naked and walks into the room and climbs into his bed. At the moment he turns on his left side, the door on the right side of the bedroom opens, and in comes Raquel Welch -- equally as naked -- she climbs into the other side of the bed. He turns to be with Raquel and Sophia taps his shoulder. He turns to her and there is Raquel touching him. All night long he is turning from one side to the other. He is a wreck when he wakes up.

Saul immediately says, "For Christ's sake, why didn't you phone me? That's what friends are for. I would gladly come over and help you any night."
Morris answers, "I did phone you several times -- but each time I called I was told you had just caught the train for Haifa."


THE MIND GOES ON DREAMING... The mind keeps you un-aware of who you are, so many dreams that the truth is lost. In the rubbish of your dreams the diamond of your being is covered.

Kabir says:
You don't grasp the fact that what is most alive of all is inside your own house; and so you walk from one holy city to the next with a confused look!


YOU CAN SEE -- all faces look confused. It is very rare to find a face which does not look confused, which has a transparency to it, a clarity. And whenever a face has clarity, transparency, the face has beauty -- a beauty that is not of the physical body only, a beauty that is something from the beyond, a beauty that wells up from within.


BUT LOOK AT PEOPLE'S FACES -- just confused, split, schizophrenic. That's what their being is: their faces are only reflecting their being. Faces are mirrors. One part of your being wants to go to the north, another part wants to go to the south, and another part to the east and another still to the west... and you are torn apart. And your faces show that -- a confused look.


You don't know who you are, where you are, why you are. Everything seems to be just accidental. You feel like a driftwood with no direction, with no sense of direction even. Where are you going? Why you are? For what? The question mark is there on every face, and the reason? Kabir is right -- the reason is YOU HAVE NOT LOOKED AT THE DEEPEST CORE OF YOUR BEING, where there is a space, a center of the cyclone, a space which is indivisible. In fact, that space known makes you an individual. 'Individual' means indivisible -- one who is not falling in parts, one who is one piece.


AND THAT CENTER IS THERE IN EVERYBODY'S BEING, but you never go there. And even if sometimes the desire to search within arises, you again start searching outside. Somebody goes to Kaaba, because a great desire has arisen in him to know who he is. Why are you going to Kaaba? Somebody goes to Kashi, somebody to Mathura, somebody to Tibet... and people go on. But still the search remains somewhere outside.


Even if the right question arises, YOU MOVE IN WRONG DIRECTIONS. If you really want to know who you are, you need not ask anybody else. Nobody can answer it.

And even if somebody answers, that answer will not become your answer. That will become at the most information, but not knowing; AND INFORMATION IS FUTILE, because you will interpret the information according to your own mind. You will read the Gita, you will read the Koran, you will listen to great teachers, but you will understand according to your own mind. You will translate everything according to yourself, according to your level of being. And then all gets lost.


Not only will the information be of no help to you, IT WILL CREATE MORE CONFUSION IN YOU. The more learned a person is, the more confused he is. If you read the Vedas and the Koran and the Bible and the Dhammapada, you will become more and more confused, because each Buddha says, in his own way, the same truth, but it is said in millions of ways. But you will not be able to understand the truth, because you don't know what the truth is.


The real process is FIRST TO KNOW WITHIN and then go into the Vedas and the Gita and the Koran, and they will all become witnesses to your experience, they will authenticate your experience. They will witness that you are right, and you will witness that they are right. Otherwise, all reading, studying, is going to create more and more confusion, because who is going to interpret it?


"Listen," the man said to his friend Albert, "I have got this female gorilla that I bought a while back. It cost me a lot of money. The problem is that I can't find any male gorilla to mate with it. I was wondering if you would mate with my gorilla for a hundred dollars."

"Hmmm, let me think this over," replied Albert.
The next day Albert went over to his friend's house and said, "I will do it, only under three conditions."
"What are the conditions?" asked the friend.

"One is that there is no hugging and kissing, and no foreplay. Two is that all the children are to be raised Catholic. Three is that you give me at least two weeks to come up with the hundred dollars."

Who is going to interpret? You cannot understand more than you know; you can understand only that much which you know on your own. Hence, THE REAL MASTER DOES NOT IMPART INFORMATION: he imparts being. He does not make you more knowledgeable: HE MAKES YOU MORE MEDITATIVE, he makes you more silent. He does not give you theories, hypo-theses, philosophies: he throws you upon yourself again and again and again. And he has to do it in spite of you, even against you, because you want clearcut answers, you want some philosophy to cling to, some idea to believe in. And the real Master will never give you any idea, any theology. In fact, he will take all ideas away from you, and all theologies -- Catholic and Protestant and Hindu and Mohammedan. And slowly slowly he will leave you utterly naked, so that you can see yourself as you are -- not according to some idea, but actually as you are. That is revelation.


That can happen within you. You need not go anywhere....

OSHO
The Fish in the Sea is Not Thirsty
Chapter #1: But man is
am in Buddha Hall




8b.


Re: THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN LIFE IS MEDITATION



Posted by: "rumika" ma_rumika@yahoo.co.in   ma_rumika



Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:04 am (PDT)




just what i needed the most...
to read it today...
thks subhuti, as always

--- On Sat, 31/7/10, Subhuti <subhuti@comcast.net> wrote:


From: Subhuti <subhuti@comcast.net>
Subject: [RiverIIOsho] THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN LIFE IS MEDITATION
To: RiverIIOsho@yahoogroups.com

Date: Saturday, 31 July, 2010, 1:13 PM

 

MEDITATION SIMPLY MEANS TO BE WITH YOURSELF in your absolute aloneness, so that you can have a taste of your own being. To be with yourself is meditation.

In my philosophy of life, ONLY TWO THINGS ARE VALUABLE: one is MEDITATION, the other is LOVE. And both are complementary. Meditation means the joy of being alone, and love means the joy of being together with somebody. These are the two wings of a true education.


MEDITATION MEANS INDEPENDENCE, FREEDOM -- freedom from all, even from the beloved; because even the presence of the beloved encroaches on your space. It is good for the time being, it is good to overlap your space with somebody, it is good to meet and merge, but ultimately, AND fundamentally, you are alone. And you have to learn how to be alone, and not only how to be alone, but joyously alone, ecstatically alone.


MEDITATION MEANS SITTING SILENTLY, DOING NOTHING... just being! The world is too much full of doing. The society teaches you to do this, to do that -- why? Because if you do this, you will have that; if you don't do this, you will not have that. Doing is a way of having more; and we are conditioned to have more and more and more -- as if by having more, we will really be satisfied, contented; as if by having more, we will really become rich.


The truth is just the opposite: THE MORE YOU HAVE, THE MORE YOU FEEL YOUR INNER POVERTY -- in contrast. The richer you become in the outside world, the emptier you feel inside; and no outer richness can fill the inner gap. Nothing from the outside can be taken in. You can have as much wealth as possible, but it will go on piling up outside you; and the bigger the heap, the more you will see your inner emptiness, nothingness, hollowness -- the more miserable you will become.


Hence, THE RICHER A SOCIETY GETS, THE MORE AND MORE IT BECOMES INTERESTED IN RELIGION. Poor societies cannot be religious; it is almost impossible. I am not saying a poor person cannot be religious -- a poor person CAN be -- but a poor society cannot be. A poor person may be an exception: Kabir was a poor man -- and attained to the highest peak possible, became a Buddha. But the poor society as such cannot be religious.


The poor society remains interested in having more and more; AND IF YOU WANT TO HAVE MORE, YOU WILL HAVE TO DO MORE. You will have to put your whole energy into doing -- and meditation is just the opposite of doing. Meditation is a state of non-doing, it is a state of utter passiveness. It is a state of being: one simply IS... and ENJOYING that simple isness. And then something starts happening inside -- without any doing on your part.


Sitting silently,
Doing nothing,
The spring comes,
And the grass grows by itself...

Something starts growing in you.

One thing, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN LIFE IS MEDITATION. No education can be called real education. Even the word 'education' simply means to draw out that which is within you. This commune is educational, because our effort is to draw out whatsoever is in you. And your so-called universities are NOT educational; they don't fulfill the requirement of being educational. They stuff people from the outside; they don't draw out, they force in. Even literally they are not educational.


The whole effort in the so-called educational institutions is TO STUFF PEOPLE WITH MORE AND MORE KNOWLEDGE, because knowledge will help them to do more and do more efficiently; and if they can do things more efficiently, they will have more things. This is what you call education? This is not real education.


Real education will teach a person the most fundamental truth that: "I am alone. I come alone, I will go alone. And between coming and going, I can deceive myself that I am not alone, but that is only a deception. Intrinsically I remain alone. Aloneness is my intrinsic nature, so I have to fall in tune with it, I have to dive deep into it. I have to know exactly what it is -- what is this aloneness?"....


AND IT IS TREMENDOUSLY BEAUTIFUL, it is incredibly beautiful, unbelievably beautiful. When you enter into your aloneness, you start becoming aware of God, you start becoming aware of your treasures hidden within you. You start becoming aware of the kingdom of God that is within you.


Kabir says:
You don't grasp the fact that what is most
Alive of all is inside your own house...

BUT NOBODY TEACHES YOU. The whole teaching is: "Go out! Search for money, for power, for prestige" -- and they are not found within. Peace is found within, silence is found within, stillness is found within, godliness is found within. But those are not the goals that you have been taught to fulfill; those are not your targets.


It is said of a great Sufi mystic, Bayazid:
One day, some people came to Sheikh Bayazid's door and knocked. He opened his upstairs window and looked out saying, "What do you want?"
"Oh," they said, "we are looking for Bayazid."

He said, "Well, I have been looking for Bayazid for ten years now, and I have not found him yet!" and closed the window.

THIS IS WHAT MEDITATION IS ALL ABOUT: trying to find oneself.

And the other most important thing is love. LOVE MEANS TRYING TO FIND ONESELF REFLECTED IN THE OTHER. Love is a mirror. Meditation is a search without a mirror; love is nothing but seeing yourself in the eyes of the other you love, reflected in his being, and a way of enjoying the togetherness.


We ARE alone, but we are not alone in the sense that we exist alone. We are alone, but there are other people around us -- who are ALSO alone! WE EXIST WITH MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE ALONE. Bridges have to be made. Love is the meeting of two alonenesses. One aloneness is immensely beautiful -- what to say about when two alonenesses meet and merge? A great flowering happens, life becomes more mysterious, more joyous.


AND THEN ONE LEARNS THE RHYTHM: sometimes be alone, enjoy yourself; sometimes be together, enjoy love, friendship. When tired of togetherness, escape into your innermost being; when tired of your aloneness, escape into the being of the other.


IT IS LIKE WALKING ON A TIGHTROPE: sometimes you lean towards the left, and then you know that if you lean any more you will fall, so you start leaning towards the right. Then again a point comes when you know that if you lean more towards the right you will fall, and you start leaning towards the left. That balance, the balance of the tightrope-walker, is the balance that gives richness to man. WALK BETWEEN LOVE AND MEDITATION, BALANCING EACH OTHER. Become rich with meditation and love.


BUT, REMEMBER, THE FIRST THING IS MEDITATION. If you don't know who you are, you will not be able to love either. If you don't know inner blissfulness you will not be able to share it with anybody else either.


BUT PEOPLE DON'T GO IN; they are running hither and thither -- they are running everywhere except inwards. And all this running is nothing but dreaming, desiring. Just watch your mind! What your mind goes on doing? In the night it dreams, in the day it dreams... it goes on running and running. It moves in circles, but those circles are all dreams.


THE TRUTH IS YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS, NOT YOUR MIND. Your mind is created by the society: your consciousness comes from God. Move to the consciousness; change the gestalt. Your emphasis has to be changed -- that's what it means to be religious. That's what conversion is: changing your attention from the mind to consciousness.


MIND IS A SOCIAL BY-PRODUCT -- the Hindu mind, the Christian mind, the communist mind, the Catholic mind -- these are social by-products. The society has put ideas in your head: that is your mind. Shift your consciousness, your attention, to that which is God-created; otherwise you will live in dreams; and dreams cannot fulfill. Dreams are dreams -- they are not really there.


Two friends meet on the street after several years of not seeing each other. The usual salutation of "How are you?" provokes the answer from Saul that he feels awful -- is suffering terribly from a strong dream. It seems that every night, the moment he goes to sleep, he dreams he is getting on the train from Tel Aviv to Haifa. The train reaches Haifa, but he does not get off. He returns to Tel Aviv, and upon arriving, he wakes up to find the new day and he is hot and tired from the trip.

Morris exclaims that he too is in a similar shape for basically the same reason. It seems that every night he dreams that the door on the left side of his bedroom opens and in walks Sophia Loren. She strips stark naked and walks into the room and climbs into his bed. At the moment he turns on his left side, the door on the right side of the bedroom opens, and in comes Raquel Welch -- equally as naked -- she climbs into the other side of the bed. He turns to be with Raquel and Sophia taps his shoulder. He turns to her and there is Raquel touching him. All night long he is turning from one side to the other. He is a wreck when he wakes up.

Saul immediately says, "For Christ's sake, why didn't you phone me? That's what friends are for. I would gladly come over and help you any night."
Morris answers, "I did phone you several times -- but each time I called I was told you had just caught the train for Haifa."


THE MIND GOES ON DREAMING... The mind keeps you un-aware of who you are, so many dreams that the truth is lost. In the rubbish of your dreams the diamond of your being is covered.

Kabir says:
You don't grasp the fact that what is most alive of all is inside your own house; and so you walk from one holy city to the next with a confused look!


YOU CAN SEE -- all faces look confused. It is very rare to find a face which does not look confused, which has a transparency to it, a clarity. And whenever a face has clarity, transparency, the face has beauty -- a beauty that is not of the physical body only, a beauty that is something from the beyond, a beauty that wells up from within.


BUT LOOK AT PEOPLE'S FACES -- just confused, split, schizophrenic. That's what their being is: their faces are only reflecting their being. Faces are mirrors. One part of your being wants to go to the north, another part wants to go to the south, and another part to the east and another still to the west... and you are torn apart. And your faces show that -- a confused look.


You don't know who you are, where you are, why you are. Everything seems to be just accidental. You feel like a driftwood with no direction, with no sense of direction even. Where are you going? Why you are? For what? The question mark is there on every face, and the reason? Kabir is right -- the reason is YOU HAVE NOT LOOKED AT THE DEEPEST CORE OF YOUR BEING, where there is a space, a center of the cyclone, a space which is indivisible. In fact, that space known makes you an individual. 'Individual' means indivisible -- one who is not falling in parts, one who is one piece.


AND THAT CENTER IS THERE IN EVERYBODY'S BEING, but you never go there. And even if sometimes the desire to search within arises, you again start searching outside. Somebody goes to Kaaba, because a great desire has arisen in him to know who he is. Why are you going to Kaaba? Somebody goes to Kashi, somebody to Mathura, somebody to Tibet... and people go on. But still the search remains somewhere outside.


Even if the right question arises, YOU MOVE IN WRONG DIRECTIONS. If you really want to know who you are, you need not ask anybody else. Nobody can answer it.

And even if somebody answers, that answer will not become your answer. That will become at the most information, but not knowing; AND INFORMATION IS FUTILE, because you will interpret the information according to your own mind. You will read the Gita, you will read the Koran, you will listen to great teachers, but you will understand according to your own mind. You will translate everything according to yourself, according to your level of being. And then all gets lost.


Not only will the information be of no help to you, IT WILL CREATE MORE CONFUSION IN YOU. The more learned a person is, the more confused he is. If you read the Vedas and the Koran and the Bible and the Dhammapada, you will become more and more confused, because each Buddha says, in his own way, the same truth, but it is said in millions of ways. But you will not be able to understand the truth, because you don't know what the truth is.


The real process is FIRST TO KNOW WITHIN and then go into the Vedas and the Gita and the Koran, and they will all become witnesses to your experience, they will authenticate your experience. They will witness that you are right, and you will witness that they are right. Otherwise, all reading, studying, is going to create more and more confusion, because who is going to interpret it?


"Listen," the man said to his friend Albert, "I have got this female gorilla that I bought a while back. It cost me a lot of money. The problem is that I can't find any male gorilla to mate with it. I was wondering if you would mate with my gorilla for a hundred dollars."

"Hmmm, let me think this over," replied Albert.
The next day Albert went over to his friend's house and said, "I will do it, only under three conditions."
"What are the conditions?" asked the friend.

"One is that there is no hugging and kissing, and no foreplay. Two is that all the children are to be raised Catholic. Three is that you give me at least two weeks to come up with the hundred dollars."

Who is going to interpret? You cannot understand more than you know; you can understand only that much which you know on your own. Hence, THE REAL MASTER DOES NOT IMPART INFORMATION: he imparts being. He does not make you more knowledgeable: HE MAKES YOU MORE MEDITATIVE, he makes you more silent. He does not give you theories, hypo-theses, philosophies: he throws you upon yourself again and again and again. And he has to do it in spite of you, even against you, because you want clearcut answers, you want some philosophy to cling to, some idea to believe in. And the real Master will never give you any idea, any theology. In fact, he will take all ideas away from you, and all theologies -- Catholic and Protestant and Hindu and Mohammedan. And slowly slowly he will leave you utterly naked, so that you can see yourself as you are -- not according to some idea, but actually as you are. That is revelation.


That can happen within you. You need not go anywhere....

OSHO
The Fish in the Sea is Not Thirsty
Chapter #1: But man is
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Carta Taza para Ranvita e Fwd: [RiverIIOsho] Digest Number 863

Oi Ranvita, amor.

Estou estarrecido por ter achado seu livro e entrado em contato.

(Gente, o livro é OS MÍSTICOS, por Ma Prem Ranvita que conta suas histórias reais, sobre suas aventuras como uma sannyasin, ela, o Raffek, seu companheiro e seus filhos e a comunidade e Osho, claro!)

Ao ler sobre o cristal que recebeu de algúem ligado ao Tibet pelo que entendi me lembrei de uma citrina que ganhei, deixada pelo Dalai Lama da primeira vez que ele veio à Alemanha.

A moça que fez um grupo que ofereci, de meditações, sumiu após me oferecer como depositário do cirstal (citrina, amarela). deixei a pedra numa valise que ainda está, após 8 anos, numa valise na Alemanha.

Tenho de ter essa valise de volta.

Quer vir à Alemanha? Já tenho alguma saudade de Poona também - mal dá pra chamar de saudade, tanta coisa tenho vivido.

Um abraço a todos e meus respeitos.

Abaixo, em INGLES, algo de OSHO que sinto fundamental para a vivência e saúde humanas.

Love a todos.

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Re: Misunderstood message of Tantra



Posted by: "Subhuti" subhuti@comcast.net   subhutiii



Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:51 am (PDT)




Maria,
Good catch! What dribble, but it didn't slip by you! Thank you. I'm impressed.

Now let's see what Osho has to say about it...


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Beloved Master,
Why has sex been a taboo in all the societies down the ages?

//Osho://
It is a very complicated question -- but very important too, worth going into. SEX IS THE MOST POWERFUL INSTINCT IN MAN. The politician and the priest -- they have understood it from the very beginning... that sex is the most driving energy in man. It has to be curtailed, it has to be cut.


IF MAN IS ALLOWED TOTAL FREEDOM ABOUT SEX, THEN THERE WILL BE NO POSSIBILITY TO DOMINATE HIM. To turn him into a slave will be impossible. Have you not seen it being done? When you want a bull to be yoked in a bullock cart -- what you do? -- you castrate, you destroy his sex energy.


AND HAVE YOU SEEN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A BULL AND AN OX? What difference! An ox is a poor phenomenon: a slave. A bull is a beauty. A bull is a glorious phenomenon, a great splendor. See a bull walking -- how he walks like an emperor. And see an ox carrying a bullock cart.


THE SAME HAS BEEN DONE TO MAN. The sex instinct has been curtailed, cut, crippled. Now man does not exist as the bull, he exists like the ox. And each man is carrying thousand and one bullock carts. Look and you will find behind you thousand and one bullock carts. And you are yoked in them.


Why can't you yoke a bull? THE BULL IS TOO POWERFUL. If he sees a cow passing by, he will throw the bullock cart and you. And he will move to the cow. He will not bother a little bit who you are. And he will not listen. It will be impossible to control the bull.


SEX ENERGY IS LIFE ENERGY, IT IS UNCONTROLLABLE. And the politician and the priest are not interested in you: they are interested to channelize your energy into certain other directions. So there is a certain mechanism behind it. It has to be understood.


SEX REPRESSION -- TABOOING THE SEX -- IS THE VERY FOUNDATION OF HUMAN SLAVERY. And man cannot be free unless sex is free. Man cannot be really free unless his sex energy is allowed natural growth.

These are THE FIVE TRICKS THROUGH WHICH MAN HAS BEEN TURNED INTO A SLAVE -- into an ugly phenomenon, a crippled.


THE FIRST IS: KEEP MAN AS WEAK AS POSSIBLE IF YOU WANT TO DOMINATE HIM. If the priest wants to dominate you, or the politician wants to dominate you, you have to be kept as weak as possible.

IF IN CERTAIN CASES EXCEPTIONS ARE ALLOWED -- that is, when the services of fighting our enemy are needed, only then -- otherwise not. The army is allowed many things which other people are not allowed. The army is in the service of death; they are allowed to be powerful. They are allowed to remain as powerful as possible. They are needed to kill the enemy. Other people are destroyed; they are forced to remain weak in thousand and one ways. AND THE BEST WAY TO KEEP A MAN WEAK IS NOT TO GIVE LOVE TOTAL FREEDOM.


LOVE IS NOURISHMENT. Now the psychologists have discovered it, that if a child is not given love, he shrivels up into himself and becomes weak. You can give him milk, you can give him medicine, you can give him everything. Just don't give him love. Don't hug him, don't kiss him, don't hold him close to the warmth of your body. And the child will start becoming weaker and weaker and weaker. And there are more chances of dying than surviving.


What happens? Why? JUST HUGGING, KISSING, GIVING WARMTH -- somehow the child feels nourished, accepted, loved, needed; THE CHILD STARTS FEELING WORTHY; the child starts feeling a certain meaning in his life.

NOW FROM THE VERY CHILDHOOD WE STARVE -- WE DON'T GIVE LOVE AS MUCH AS NEEDED. Then we force the young men and young women not to fall in love unless they get married. By the age fourteen they become sexually mature. But the education may take more time – ten years more. Twenty-four, twenty-five years then they will be getting their MAs or PhDs or MDs. So we have to force them not to love.


SEXUAL ENERGY COMES TO ITS CLIMAX AT NEAR ABOUT THE AGE OF EIGHTEEN. Never again will a man be so potential, and never again will a woman be able to have a greater orgasm than she will be able near the age eighteen. But we force them not to make love.


We force boys to have their separate dormitories. GIRLS AND BOYS ARE KEPT SEPARATE. And just between the two stands the whole mechanism of police, magistrate, vice chancellors, principals, headmasters. They are all standing there just in between -- just holding boys not to move to the girls, holding girls not to move to the boys. Why? Why so much care is taken?


THEY ARE TRYING TO KILL THE BULL AND CREATE AN OX.

By the time you are eighteen, you are at the peak of your sexual energy, your love energy. By the time you get married, twenty-fifth, twenty-sixth, twenty-seventh -- and the age has been going on and on. The more cultured a county, the more you wait -- because more has to be learned. The job has to be found, this and that. BY THE TIME YOU GET MARRIED, YOU ARE ALMOST DECLINING IN YOUR POWERS. And you love -- but the love never becomes really hot. It never comes to the point where people evaporate; it remains lukewarm.


AND WHEN YOU HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO LOVE TOTALLY, YOU CANNOT LOVE YOUR CHILDREN -- because you don't know how. When you have not been able to know the peaks of it, how can you teach your children? How can you help your children to have the peaks of it? So down the ages, man has been denied love so that he remains weak.



Second trick through which man has been turned into a slave:

KEEP MAN AS IGNORANT AND DELUDED AS POSSIBLE SO THAT HE CAN BE EASILY DECEIVED. And if you want to create a sort of idioticness -- which is a must for the priest and the politician and their conspiracy -- then the best thing is NOT to allow man to move into love freely.


WITHOUT LOVE, A MAN'S INTELLIGENCE FALLS LOW. Have you not watched it? When you fall in love, suddenly all your capacities are at their peak, at their crescendo. Just a moment before you were looking dull. And then you have met your woman, and suddenly a great joy has erupted in your being -- you are aflame!


WHEN PEOPLE ARE IN LOVE THEY PERFORM AT THE OPTIMUM; when love disappears or when love is not there, they perform at their minimum. THE GREATEST INTELLIGENT PEOPLE ARE THE MOST SEXUAL PEOPLE. This has to be understood. Because love energy is basically intelligence. If you cannot love, you are somehow closed, cold... you cannot flow.


WHILE IN LOVE, ONE FLOWS. While in love, one feels so confident that he can touch the stars. That's why a woman becomes a great inspiration, a man becomes a great inspiration.

WHEN A WOMAN IS LOVED SHE BECOMES MORE BEAUTIFUL IMMEDIATELY, INSTANTLY. Just a moment before she was just an ordinary woman. When love has showered upon her, she is bathed in a totally new energy; a new aura arises around her. She walks more gracefully, a dance has come to her step. Her eyes have tremendous beauty now. Her face glows, she is luminous. And the same happens to the man.


When people are in love, they perform at the optimum; don't allow love -- they will remain at the minimum. When they remain at the minimum, they are stupid, they are ignorant. They don't bother to know. AND WHEN PEOPLE ARE IGNORANT AND STUPID AND DELUDED, THEY CAN BE EASILY DECEIVED. When people are sexually repressed -- love-wise repressed -- they start hankering for the other life. They think about heaven, paradise -- but they don't think to create the paradise here-now.


WHEN YOU ARE IN LOVE, THE PARADISE IS HERE-NOW. Then you don't bother. Then who goes to the priest? Then who bothers that there is a paradise? You are already there! You are no more interested. But when your love energy is repressed, you start thinking here is nothing, now is empty. Then there must be somewhere, some goal. Then you go to the priest and ask about heaven. And he paints beautiful pictures about heaven.


SEX HAS BEEN REPRESSED SO THAT YOU CAN BECOME INTERESTED IN THE OTHER LIFE. And when people are interested in the other life, naturally they are not interested in this life. AND TANTRA SAYS THAT THIS LIFE IS THE ONLY LIFE. The other life is hidden in this life. It is not against it, it is not away from it, it is in it. You go into it, this is it! You go into it and you will find the other too. God is hidden in the world. That is the TANTRA MESSAGE, a great message, super, incomparable. GOD IS HIDDEN IN THE WORLD! God is hidden here-now. If you love, you will be able to feel.



THIRD SECRET: KEEP MAN AS FRIGHTENED AS POSSIBLE. And the sure way is not to allow them love -- because love destroys fear. Love casteth out fear.

WHEN YOU ARE IN LOVE YOU ARE NOT AFRAID. When you are in love you can fight against the whole world. When you are in love you feel infinitely capable of anything. But when you are not in love, you are afraid of a small thing. When you are not in love you become more interested in security, in safety. When you are in love you are more interested in adventure, in exploration.


PEOPLE HAVE NOT BEEN ALLOWED TO LOVE BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE THEM AFRAID. And when they are afraid and trembling they are always on their knees, bowing to the priest and bowing to the politician. It is a great conspiracy against humanity. It is a great conspiracy against you!


YOUR POLITICIAN AND YOUR PRIEST ARE YOUR ENEMIES! But they pretend that they are public servants. They say that we are here to serve you, to help you, to attain to a better life. "We are here to create a good life for you." And they are the destroyers of life itself!



FOURTH: KEEP MAN AS MISERABLE AS POSSIBLE -- because a miserable man is confused. A miserable man has no self-worth. A miserable man is self-condemnatory. A miserable man feels that he must have done something wrong. A miserable man has no grounding -- YOU CAN PUSH HIM FROM HERE AND THERE. He can be turned into a driftwood very easily.


And the miserable man is always READY TO BE COMMANDED, to be ordered, to be disciplined -- because he knows "On my own I am simply miserable. Maybe somebody else can discipline my life." He is a ready victim.



And FIFTH: KEEP MAN AS ALIENATED FROM EACH OTHER AS POSSIBLE, so that they cannot band together for some purpose of which the priest and the politician may not approve. Keep people separate from each other; don't allow them too much intimacy. When people are separate, lonely, alienated from each other... they cannot band together.


AND THERE ARE THOUSAND AND ONE TRICKS HOW TO KEEP THEM AWAY. For example, if you are holding the hand of a man -- you are a man and you are holding the hand of a man -- and walking on the road singing, you will feel guilty. Because people will start looking at you: "Are you gay, homosexual or something?"


TWO MEN ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE HAPPY TOGETHER. They are not allowed to hold hands; they are not allowed to hug each other. They are CONDEMNED AS HOMOSEXUALS. Fear arises.

If your friend comes and takes your hand in his hand, you look around -- somebody is seeing or not? And you are just in a hurry to drop the hand. You shake hands in such a hurry. Have you watched it? You just touch each other's hand and shake and you are finished. YOU DON'T HOLD HANDS, YOU DON'T HUG EACH OTHER, YOU ARE AFRAID.


DO YOU REMEMBER YOUR FATHER HAS HUGGED YOU EVER? Do you remember? After you became sexually mature, your mother has not hugged you? Why? FEAR HAS BEEN CREATED. Young man and mother hugging maybe some sex arises between them, some idea, some fantasy. Fear has been created.


The father and the son, the father and the daughter, no. The brother and the sister, no. The brother and the brother, no. PEOPLE ARE KEPT INTO SEPARATE BOXES -- WITH GREAT WALLS AROUND. Everybody is classified, and there are thousand-and-one barriers.


YES, ONE DAY AFTER TWENTY-FIVE YEARS OF ALL THIS TRAINING YOU ARE ALLOWED TO MAKE LOVE TO YOUR WIFE. But now the training has gone too deep into you, and suddenly you don't know what to do. How to love? You have not learned the language. It is as if a person has been denied to speak for twenty-five years -- just listen. Twenty-five years he has not been allowed to speak a single word. And then suddenly you put him on a stage and tell him that give us a great lecture. What will happen? He will fall there, then and there. He may faint, he may die. Twenty-five years of silence and now suddenly he is expected to deliver a great lecture; it is not possible. This is what is happening.


Twenty-five years of anti-love, of fear... and then suddenly you are allowed, legally -- a license is issued that now you can love this woman. This is your wife, you are her husband, and you are allowed to love. BUT WHERE THOSE TWENTY-FIVE YEARS OF WRONG TRAINING ARE GOING TO GO? They will be there.


Yes, you will love. You will make an effort, a gesture. It is not going to be explosive; it is not going to be orgasmic; it will be very tiny. THAT'S WHY YOU ARE FRUSTRATED AFTER MAKING LOVE TO A WOMAN. Ninety-nine percent people are frustrated after love -- more frustrated than they have ever been before.


And they feel what? There is nothing; it is not true. Now, first the priest and the politician has managed that you should not be able to love. And then they come and they preach that there is nothing in love. And suddenly their preaching looks right. Their preaching looks exactly in tune with your experience. FIRST THEY CREATE THE EXPERIENCE -- OF FUTILITY, OF FRUSTRATION -- THEN THEIR TEACHING. And both look logical together: one piece. This is a great trick, the greatest that has ever been played upon man.



These five things can be managed by a single thing -- and that is THE LOVE TABOO. It would be possible to accomplish all these objectives BY SOMEHOW PREVENTING PEOPLE FROM LOVING EACH OTHER. And the taboo has been done in such a scientific way. It is a great piece of art, this taboo. Great skill and great cunningness has gone into it; it is really a masterpiece. It has to be understood, this taboo.


First, it is indirect. IT IS HIDDEN, IT IS NOT APPARENT -- because whenever a taboo is too obvious, it will not work. The taboo has to be very hidden, so you don't know how it works. The taboo has to be so hidden that you cannot even imagine that anything against it is possible. The taboo has to go into the unconscious, not in the conscious.


How to make it so subtle and so indirect? THE TRICK IS: GO ON TEACHING THAT LOVE IS GREAT. The first thing -- so people never think that priests and the politicians are against love. Go on teaching that love is great, that love is the right thing. AND DON'T ALLOW ANY SITUATION WHERE LOVE CAN HAPPEN, don't allow the opportunity.


DON'T GIVE ANY OPPORTUNITY. And go on teaching that food is great, that eating is a great joy -- eat as well as you can -- but don't supply anything to eat. Keep people hungry and go on talking about love. So all the priests go on talking about love... Love is praised as highly as anything -- just next to God -- and deny any possibility of its happening. DIRECTLY ENCOURAGE IT; INDIRECTLY, CUT ITS ROOTS. This is the masterpiece work.


No priest talks about how they have done the harm. IT IS AS IF YOU GO ON SAYING TO THE TREE THAT: "BE GREEN, BLOOM, ENJOY" -- and go on cutting the roots. So the tree cannot be green. And when the tree is not green you can reprimand the tree and say, "Listen! You don't listen, you don't follow us. We go on saying be green, bloom, enjoy, dance." And meanwhile, you go on cutting the roots!


Love is so much denied. AND LOVE IS THE RAREST THING IN THE WORLD -- IT SHOULD NOT BE DENIED. If a man can love five persons, he should love five. If a man can love fifty, he should love fifty. If a man can love five-hundred, he should love five-hundred. LOVE IS SO RARE THAT THE MORE YOU CAN SPREAD IT, THE BETTER.


But there are great tricks. YOU ARE FORCED IN A NARROW, VERY NARROW, CORNER. You can love only your wife, you can love only your husband; you can love only this, you can love only that. The conditions are too much. It is as if there is a law that you can breathe only when you are with your wife, you can breathe only when you are with your husband. Then breathing will become impossible. Then you will die. And you will not be able to breathe even while you are with your wife or with your husband. You will have to breathe twenty-four hours. The more you breathe, the more you will be able to breathe while you are with your spouse. Be loving!



Then there is a trick: THEY TALK ABOUT HIGHER LOVE AND THEY DESTROY THE LOWER. And they say the lower has to be denied... the bodily love is bad, the spiritual love is good. Have you ever seen any spirit without a body? Have you ever seen a house without the foundation? THE LOWER IS THE FOUNDATION OF THE HIGHER.


The body is your abode. The spirit lives in the body, with the body. You are an embodied spirit and an ensouled body. You are together. THE LOWER AND THE HIGHER ARE NOT SEPARATE. They are one, rungs of the same ladder. This is what Tantra wants to make clear that: THE LOWER HAS NOT TO BE DENIED, THE LOWER HAS TO BE TRANSFORMED INTO THE HIGHER. The lower is good.


If you are stuck with the lower, the fault is with you, not with the lower. The lower rung of a ladder has nothing wrong in it. If you are stuck with it, you are stuck. It is something in you -- you move. SEX IS NOT WRONG, YOU ARE WRONG IF YOU ARE STUCK THERE. Move higher! The higher is not against the lower; the lower makes it possible for the higher to exist.


And these tricks have created many other problems.

Each time you are in love, somehow you feel guilty, a guilt has arisen. WHEN THERE IS GUILT, YOU CANNOT TOTALLY MOVE INTO LOVE. The guilt prevents you, it keeps you hoarding. Even while making love to your wife or your husband, there is guilt -- you know this is sin, you know you are doing something wrong; saints don't do it -- you are a sinner. So you cannot move totally even when you are allowed superficially that you can love your wife. THE PRIEST IS HIDDEN BEHIND YOU IN YOUR GUILT FEELINGS. He is pulling you from there, pulling your strings. When guilt arises, you start feeling that you are wrong. You lose self-worth, you lose self-respect.


And another problem arises: WHEN THERE IS GUILT YOU START PRETENDING. Mothers and fathers don't allow their children to know that they make love -- they pretend. THEY PRETEND THAT LOVE EXISTS NOT. Their pretension will be known by the children sooner or later. When the children come to know about the pretension they lose all trust, they feel betrayed, they feel cheated.


AND FATHERS AND MOTHERS SAY THAT CHILDREN DON'T RESPECT THEM -- YOU ARE THE CAUSE OF IT. How can they respect? You have been deceiving them in every way. You have been dishonest, you have been mean. You were telling them not to fall in love -- "Beware!" And you were making love all the time. And the day will come... sooner or later they will realize that even your father, even your mother is not true with you. So how they can respect?


FIRST GUILT CREATES PRETENSION, THEN PRETENSION CREATES ALIENATION WITH PEOPLE. Even the child -- your own child -- will not feel in tune with you. There is a barrier: your pretension. And when you know that everybody is pretending... one day you will come to know that you are pretending, so are others pretending. When everybody is pretending, how can you relate?


OSHO
The Tantra Vision
Vol 2, Ch #4: Trust cannot be betrayed
am in Buddha Hall

 




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